on Janus
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early websim-era unpacking of Janus's public interactions with LLMs
- Kenzo
The idea of turning the LLM hallucinations into a new reality. It's still blowing my mind
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- fjpaz
The idea of turning the LLM hallucinations into a new reality [...]
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/janus-simulatorsJanus' Simulators
This post isn't exactly about AI, but bear with me
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- fjpaz
also not sure if you saw the kinda-drama on twitter this last ~48 hours or something (link)
but people's perception of janus has been a pretty hot topic
wow 100k..
also not sure if you saw the kinda-drama on twitter [...]
led to many expressions and elaborations
this was the last big one twitter.com
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- Kenzo
I get between .01% and 1% of what Janus is getting at
- fjpaz
yeah that is definitely how it is lol
it took me several read overs to start to "get it" where "it" is janus's vibe or something
over weeks or months
weeks and months really
I wonder what the moment is where I decided to follow and tune in a bit
maybe it was seeing loom or something but I think it would have been some particularly interesting tweet
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- Kenzo
I guess websim is an attempt by Janus to explore this multiverse simulator and come across things that don't look quite right by our current standards
- fjpaz
hmmm
with websim and with most of the stuff in tweets, Janus is mostly in a state of play
they have already done quite a lot of exploring and mapped out a lot of territory in the process
ofc there is always something new, but could think of it like when a new game comes out in a series you enjoy, let’s say an FPS like overwatch
if you already have a very strong hold on 3D games and fps mechanics + previous game(s) in the series, picking up a new release is extremely easy and basically just pure fun. you are more meta-gaming because you speak the language
if it was your job to achieve some result or discovery in that game engine and you had zero experience with 3D games at all, it would be (hard) work to get good enough to do that
this generative.ink post was published in 2021
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- Kenzo
So how is Janus creating these prompts to elicit these types of outputs? There must be many patterns of prompts he has explored
- fjpaz
So how is Janus creating these prompts [...]
janus has a very different frame due in part to having built initial proficiency with base (completion-only/non-chat) models
janus doesn’t really “create prompts”
janus improvises in every turn; every sentence is a prompt, and each sentence (from both human + model) compounds
one answer is that janus approaches with a spirit of play vs formulaically